Comments on: The times are changing http://www.andrewtrench.com/2007/12/04/the-times-are-changing/ notes from the revolution Fri, 04 May 2012 13:43:33 +0200 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: SMG http://www.andrewtrench.com/2007/12/04/the-times-are-changing/comment-page-1/#comment-915 SMG Fri, 07 Dec 2007 11:53:22 +0000 http://blogs.dispatch.co.za/trench/2007/12/04/the-times-are-changing/#comment-915 Just to poke my nose in here. I have a couple male black friends (I'm white) and all those years back when our black male friends had to have the deed done, they went to the hospital (not government, but private where medical aid paid for it), had the procedure done and then they would find a spot to build their hut nearer to home(out of respect to their mother because my friends didn't want their moms to worry about them). They followed all the traditions to the rites of passage, i.e. living on their own for the allotted time, new wardrobe, wearing the smart clothes etc, while still maintaining some form of dignity. My friends are not hoighty or upper class, but they chose the path to their manhood with taste - in my opinion. Today, they are fine men, married with kids and I will forever respect the way in which they carried out their path to manhood. There will always be customs and traditions that I don't agree with in the black culture, just as there will always be traditions in the white culture which black people don't like or agree with; the key is tolerance and to have respect for others. Just to poke my nose in here. I have a couple male black friends (I’m white) and all those years back when our black male friends had to have the deed done, they went to the hospital (not government, but private where medical aid paid for it), had the procedure done and then they would find a spot to build their hut nearer to home(out of respect to their mother because my friends didn’t want their moms to worry about them). They followed all the traditions to the rites of passage, i.e. living on their own for the allotted time, new wardrobe, wearing the smart clothes etc, while still maintaining some form of dignity. My friends are not hoighty or upper class, but they chose the path to their manhood with taste – in my opinion. Today, they are fine men, married with kids and I will forever respect the way in which they carried out their path to manhood.

There will always be customs and traditions that I don’t agree with in the black culture, just as there will always be traditions in the white culture which black people don’t like or agree with; the key is tolerance and to have respect for others.

]]> By: Ray http://www.andrewtrench.com/2007/12/04/the-times-are-changing/comment-page-1/#comment-914 Ray Thu, 06 Dec 2007 17:29:49 +0000 http://blogs.dispatch.co.za/trench/2007/12/04/the-times-are-changing/#comment-914 How do you guys explain all guys who lost their manhood due to rituals in the bush ooops. WHY did hospitals clinics etc get established. Now whose still in the dark ages grass hut spear mmmhh. How do you guys explain all guys who lost their manhood due to rituals in the bush ooops. WHY did hospitals clinics etc get established. Now whose still in the dark ages grass hut spear mmmhh.

]]> By: KOKI http://www.andrewtrench.com/2007/12/04/the-times-are-changing/comment-page-1/#comment-913 KOKI Thu, 06 Dec 2007 14:29:42 +0000 http://blogs.dispatch.co.za/trench/2007/12/04/the-times-are-changing/#comment-913 I take back my previous comments regarding Kingsters dissapointing "loss". It appears to be more than sufficient to bewilder Ray. Good on you Kingster! and Mr Eddie. Guess the next rounds on me too. I take back my previous comments regarding Kingsters dissapointing “loss”. It appears to be more than sufficient to bewilder Ray. Good on you Kingster! and Mr Eddie. Guess the next rounds on me too.

]]> By: Ray http://www.andrewtrench.com/2007/12/04/the-times-are-changing/comment-page-1/#comment-912 Ray Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:39:39 +0000 http://blogs.dispatch.co.za/trench/2007/12/04/the-times-are-changing/#comment-912 Kingster what has camping got to do with riuals? Kingster what has camping got to do with riuals?

]]> By: KOKI http://www.andrewtrench.com/2007/12/04/the-times-are-changing/comment-page-1/#comment-911 KOKI Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:06:06 +0000 http://blogs.dispatch.co.za/trench/2007/12/04/the-times-are-changing/#comment-911 Kingster, Kingster, Kingster. (KOKI shakes his head). How did such a good start to a response end THAT poorly? Its like you snatched defeat from the grips of victory my friend. Unfortunate because Rays statement borders on the ludicrous. So, if i may, add to Kingsters original sentiments, perhaps Ray and his kinship would do well to read a little treatise by Jared Diamond entitled Guns, Germs and Steal. Im sure, afterwards, we could all have a cold one at the pub and reminisce about how poor a teacher Mr Eddie (Dale College) really was/is. Im buying. Kingster, Kingster, Kingster. (KOKI shakes his head). How did such a good start to a response end THAT poorly? Its like you snatched defeat from the grips of victory my friend. Unfortunate because Rays statement borders on the ludicrous. So, if i may, add to Kingsters original sentiments, perhaps Ray and his kinship would do well to read a little treatise by Jared Diamond entitled Guns, Germs and Steal. Im sure, afterwards, we could all have a cold one at the pub and reminisce about how poor a teacher Mr Eddie (Dale College) really was/is. Im buying.

]]> By: Brett Horner http://www.andrewtrench.com/2007/12/04/the-times-are-changing/comment-page-1/#comment-910 Brett Horner Wed, 05 Dec 2007 10:24:58 +0000 http://blogs.dispatch.co.za/trench/2007/12/04/the-times-are-changing/#comment-910 Ray, when dispensing with your profound insights, please be careful about that collective "we" you choose to use. Ray, when dispensing with your profound insights, please be careful about that collective “we” you choose to use.

]]> By: Kingster http://www.andrewtrench.com/2007/12/04/the-times-are-changing/comment-page-1/#comment-909 Kingster Wed, 05 Dec 2007 07:15:55 +0000 http://blogs.dispatch.co.za/trench/2007/12/04/the-times-are-changing/#comment-909 Ray, I find your statement insulting.It shows your level of understanding of other people's cultures.Contrary to your belief of white people having evolved and turned their back on their barbaric past, I still believe most barbaric acts in the world are perpetrated by those who preach enlightenment.You just stopped short of calling black african rituals acts of savagery.I do believe in your head we blacks have the minds of baboons hence your "evolution" nonsense.For your education please try and find out more about our culture instead of just tapping away spilling your toxic print diarrhoea.By the way google on your evolved computer for the health benefits of circumcision and something else, why do white people go camping? Is it because they are missing the cavemen days?oops! Ray, I find your statement insulting.It shows your level of understanding of other people’s cultures.Contrary to your belief of white people having evolved and turned their back on their barbaric past, I still believe most barbaric acts in the world are perpetrated by those who preach enlightenment.You just stopped short of calling black african rituals acts of savagery.I do believe in your head we blacks have the minds of baboons hence your “evolution” nonsense.For your education please try and find out more about our culture instead of just tapping away spilling your toxic print diarrhoea.By the way google on your evolved computer for the health benefits of circumcision and something else, why do white people go camping? Is it because they are missing the cavemen days?oops!

]]> By: Ray http://www.andrewtrench.com/2007/12/04/the-times-are-changing/comment-page-1/#comment-908 Ray Wed, 05 Dec 2007 03:55:06 +0000 http://blogs.dispatch.co.za/trench/2007/12/04/the-times-are-changing/#comment-908 If all white people practised all their old rituals we would be consided barbaric thats why we have evolved as people, times have changed no wonder the rest of the world looks at us strangely, still practicing rituals in the bush. If all white people practised all their old rituals we would be consided barbaric thats why we have evolved as people, times have changed no wonder the rest of the world looks at us strangely, still practicing rituals in the bush.

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